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No Children Allowed

No Children Allowed?

By Chris Jordan

No Children Allowed

More and more places have decided they don’t want to have children as customers.  This applies to restaurants, airlines, stores, movie theaters.  Many parents are outraged.  They blame intolerant childless people.  They blame society as whole who they say no longer value children.  They don’t understand how other people would not find their child as precious as they do.

But you know what?  I don’t find other people’s misbehaving children endearing at all.  I am not childless.  As a mother of seven children I fully support these type of bans.

Here is a newsflash, if people parented their kids there would be no reason for places to ban kids completely.


We have seen a lot of movies this summer. Probably more than we have in the past two years combined. (It’s been a long, hot summer in Austin.)

A few weeks ago we were watching the previews, you have to get there in time to watch the previews, all of them, according to my children, when a family came in and sat right across the aisle from us. Two parents and two kids, one about 5 years old and the other about 12- 15 months old. I thought it was odd that they chose to bring a 12-15 month old to the movie theater, since in my parenting experience not one of my children could sit through a movie at that age. But they must know their kid, right? They must know that their kid will sit through a long movie in a darkened theater. Otherwise they wouldn’t have brought her, right?


The movie had not even started when the kid began screeching to get out of the confines of her mother’s lap. Her mother put her down where she proceeded to run up and down the aisle, while both parents sat in their seats and ignored her. Surely once the movie begins they won’t allow this, I thought.

Except that once the movie began it was even worse, because the little girl now wanted one of her parents to walk up and down the aisle with her. And so her parents took turns walking her up and down the aisle, only stopping to try and make her sit down. Where she would scream. They did this for the entire movie.

I wanted to stop them and ask if they were enjoying themselves. I can’t imagine that they were. I wanted to ask them why they didn’t take the girl out of the theater when they realized she wasn’t going to watch the movie.

These people are the reason so many places have enacted policies barring kids from their establishments.

I think we may start attending movies at the Alamo Draft House. They forbid children under six from attending movies at all. They also enforce very strict no talking, no cellphone use/no texting during movies.  Have you seen this video?  It’s a phone call they received by a woman complaining about how she was thrown out of their theater for texting.  It is hysterical and definitely not for watching at work or around your children.

I am going to go out on a limb here where everyone will probably hate me, but if your kid can’t behave appropriately for the place you are bringing him, then you shouldn’t be bringing him. If you know your child can’t be quiet and sit in a chair at a fancy restaurant, then don’t bring him. I don’t care if it is your grandmother’s 90th birthday.  Go some place that is child friendly, but remember just because it might be loud and have a children’s menu, and cups with lids, you still have to parent.  No one thinks your child standing on her chair and singing is cute.  No one thinks your child running around and dancing between tables is adorable.  And no one thinks that your child yelling and screaming is enjoyable.

We were at a restaurant recently where the waitstaff kept commenting how well behaved my children were being. It surprised me because at 6, 8, and 10 years old I thought they were just acting normal. After the fourth or fifth time I finally asked what my kids were doing that was out of the ordinary.  Oh boy, I got an earful.  They were not stories of babies crying, or even toddlers screaming.  They were not stories about parents having to apologetically leave the restaurant and take their food to go. They were all stories about kids running wild while the parents did nothing.

So really, the bans are not about keeping children out. They are about keeping out parents who refuse to parent.  And how can anyone be against that?

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Chris Jordan
About the Author

Chris Jordan

Chris Jordan began blogging at Notes From the Trenches in 2004 where she writes about her life raising her children in Austin, Texas.

Oh, she has seven of them. Yes, children. Yes, the...

Chris Jordan began blogging at Notes From the Trenches in 2004 where she writes about her life raising her children in Austin, Texas.

Oh, she has seven of them. Yes, children.
Yes, they are all hers.
No she’s not Catholic or Mormon. Though she wouldn’t mind having a sister-wife because holy hell the laundry never stops.
Yes, she finally figured out what causes it. That’s why her youngest is almost 6.
Yes, she has a television.

She enjoys referring to herself in the third person.

If you would like to submit a question for Chris to answer publicly, please do so to adviceforparentsoftweens[at]gmail[dot]com.

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  • Wiley

    July 29, 2011 at 5:09 pm

    Another nice feature of the Drafthouse is that they allow kids 3 and up for many kid features during daytime hours. My son was tall and we may have taken him in starting at 2.5. He does well and I think he does better it being the drafthouse, because there are the additional features of food and their is space between your seat and table so he can stand directly in front of his seat.

  • Melani

    July 29, 2011 at 5:10 pm

    I’m with you–I have two children and fully support businesses banning children.  It blows my mind how many people let their kids run wild.  I honestly can’t remember the last meal out we’ve gone to without hearing some child screaming. I also wish we had a theater like the Alamo Draft House near us–I would go to movies more often.  I can’t remember the last time when I went to a movie and just watched the movie rather than listening to adults have regular voice conversations, babies crying in the 8 o’clock showing of Harry Potter (that was last night) or kids running around the theater through the whole movie.  It’s so frustrating. 

  • Talia

    July 29, 2011 at 5:16 pm

    AMEN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! We recently took our two year old to see the new Winnie the Pooh movie and was mortified by the behavior of a mother and her daughter in the theater. The two of them sat there and talked through the entire movie, About half way through the movie the little girl started running up and down the isle and yelling. The mom didn’t do a thing. At the end of the movie she started looking around trying to find her daughter. It was absolutely ridiculous. My kid gets one switch to each parent’s lap and then it’s out of the theater if she can’t sit still anymore.
    Oh, & my favorite is the parents who let their children throw fits in places (loud “child friendly” places) and get upset when people glare at them for not controlling their children. I’m sorry, but you deserve to be glared at if you’re ruining other people’s family time with your inability to keep your kid under control.

    • Canuck (Canadian) Person

      November 23, 2014 at 9:40 am

      If cinemas officials were notified about that girl creating a racket and her inconsiderate mom doing nothing about it that kid and her mother should have been booted out of the cinema so if it came to that I’ll admit that her mom is more to blame than her daughter.

  • Heather

    July 29, 2011 at 5:39 pm

    I totally agree. There have been a few times that I have had to get up and take one of the boys outside because they were misbehaving, and there have been many more times that I’ve recieved compliments on how my children. We don’t make idle threats in our house. People need to grow up and be parents.

  • Dawn K.

    July 29, 2011 at 6:23 pm

    I think this commentary probably covers many of the important points of this whole debate. I would never imagine bringing Ella (my 15 month old) to a movie, fancy restaurant, or poetry reading. I do feel, though, that she does have a place in a grocery store or somewhere casual like Chipotle. Will she sometimes run away from me down the aisles? Yes. Will I contain her to the cart for not listening? Yes. Do people get pissed when she’s vocal in a cheerful manner or they get slowed down by me trying to juggle groceries and not letting my toddler launch herself out of a cart? YES. This is where it gets all sticky; people who think kids don’t belong anywhere (which of course, is not you), and walking the fine line as to the places where kids may or may not be welcome. I think that Ella would do ok in a place like Olive Garden (more that fast food, but not fancy) as long as she’s constantly distracted, and probably makes a few trips outside to burn off some steam. I make sure to pick up any food she tosses on the floor, we tip well, and we try to not bother other patrons. Some people would most decidedly disagree with me, and profess that they have a right to enjoy their free salad and breadsticks without my kid present, end of story. A grey area that will never be resolved. Thanks for your take on this, Chris!!

  • suziejd

    July 29, 2011 at 10:08 pm

    It’s unfortunate, though.  An outright ban punishes those who do parent along with those who do not. It keeps those of us who would say “this doesn’t work” and LEAVE from being able to make that choice.

    Nevertheless, now that my kids are 13 and 15, I will be thrilled to hear less screeching and yelling. It happened to us at a restaurant just tonight, and it wasn’t enjoyable.  Even though I knew that the parents were tired and just wanted some food without the clean up (just like I did) – I still didn’t want a screaming child a foot away from my dinner. 

  • Meg

    July 30, 2011 at 9:57 am

    This is a great article.  I think Dawn K. above also hits the nail on the head as well.  I can remember 10 short months ago before my son was born.  We used to go to nicer restaurants and yes, I did get annoyed if someone had a loud toddler disturbing everyone.  On the other hand if we went to a casual burger joint I accepted the fact that kids are kids and this is a kid friendly establishment.  Parents need to accept that they are now parents and make some changes in their lifestyles, such as choosing kid friendly places for dinner and finding a babysitter for their 14 month old while they go to a movie.  I am not at all upset by the “kid ban” set forth by some places.  I guess I assume that those places who put forth this ban are those places that I probably wouldn’t/shouldn’t bring my child to anyways.  Now that I’m a parent I try to respect those who aren’t, especially in adult environments. 

  • Robyn

    July 30, 2011 at 6:47 pm

    Bravo – what a great post!

  • Mary Kay

    July 30, 2011 at 10:39 pm

    As a parent of 2 kids who are generally well behaved, I don’t like the universal ban of “no children.” But as one of many who have experienced the misbehaving child and the parent who isn’t parenting, I understand it. When I can, I try to think of something I can do to help a parent who may just be at their wit’s end. Last summer, a child on an airplane was so naughty that the copilot had to speak to him. The mom seemed like a novice traveler who had no idea what to do. When I gave her the bag of Froot Loops that I had brought for my kids, he finally calmed down (and then fell asleep right before landing). But last week, at a museum exhibit for which you had to buy timed-entry tickets, a 3-year-old child fussed through the entire thing and the mom did nothing but stand there and listen to her audio tour. Very frustrating to everyone who was trying to read and listen to the tour, including my 2 children, for whom this other child nearly ruined the experience. When we asked one of the museum attendants to handle the situation, she said there was nothing she could do. Clearly, it was not an appropriate place for a child that age. Unfortunately, the bad behavior will be what dictates the rules, and the good kids (and parents with age-appropriate judgement) will get excluded from things they could have enjoyed and learned from.

  • Jennifer

    July 31, 2011 at 12:15 am

    I work as a cashier at a local grocery store and the simple things I say to children is mindnumbing sometimes, parents need to leave their phones alone or realize that they need to multi task. Talk to me and keep one eye on their kid. “Don’t climb on my till please.” “Don’t put your mouth on the side its really dirty.” “Your child is running for the door by the way.” My all time favourite is “your child is eating a chocolate bar in the next till if your looking for them. (the parent started to do a frantic search)” I feel like some parents disliked the rules their parents enforced and have choosen not to apply those themselves, forgeting that there was a perfectly good reason for why the basic rules were there. I remember as a kid I had to have my hand on the cart at all times or be one step away, no running, no screaming and no asking for things over and over. It was indoor voice whenever inside any building and I didn;t see movies till I was 7 or 8 when I could sit for 90 minutes.

  • cst

    July 31, 2011 at 2:39 am

    You say we should be parenting our children, but you might as well say we should be controlling them. You also mention the importance of them behaving appropriately, which I’m guessing means they should act like adults? Even adults don’t do that. Those seem like unrealistic requests of young children, and I don’t think that the way to teach them how to act in certain situations is to keep them away. My kids are very little, and we often get the compliment that they’re “so well behaved.” I don’t like it, frankly, because it means, “Thanks for keeping your kids quiet so we could pretend they’re not here.” I am teaching my kids to be respectful, of course, but I do that by taking them places, not by leaving them home. Airplanes, weddings, nice restaurants, country clubs … we have been everywhere as a family, and if they start to get loud, excited, or upset, my first response is not, “I must remove them or shut them up before someone gets offended!” What kind of message would that send to my child? No, my response is, “What does my child need in this moment that is causing this behavior?” If I can meet that need without disturbing others, that’s ideal, and I’ll do that whenever I can. If I can’t, the relationship with my child still comes first. 

    The joyful cheering or even the sorrowful wailing of a child in public has never bothered me, and I do happen to think that chair-standing or running/dancing children in restaurants are quite cute. If I have my own kids with me, they enjoy saying hello to new friends, and if I don’t, I appreciate the reminder not to be so serious about my meal that I can’t smile at a happy child or empathize with a sad one.

    It’s not at all that I think everyone finds my children as precious as I do. I know full well that some people don’t like to see kids in certain places, but it’s just as rude to exclude them as it is for children to act obnoxiously when they’re there. Children are people, and they have as much a right to be who they are in public as anyone else. Not at the expense of everyone else, but that’s as much a matter of perception as behavior.

    I’m also inclined to give that family in the movie theatre the benefit of the doubt. Maybe their sitter for the younger one canceled after the 5-year-old was promised a movie, or maybe the younger one has happily sat through a movie before and was just having an off day. We all have off days, and I’ve been far more annoyed by teenagers kicking my seat or grown men answering their phones during the movie than I have ever been by a small child just being a child. Especially during  a family movie. What business is it of yours whether the parents were enjoying themselves walking their baby up and down the stairs? Maybe they were; maybe their perception of enjoyment is just different from yours. Why not assume the best of people?

    • lolsuz

      June 11, 2013 at 4:16 pm

      @cst: “What business is it of yours whether the parents were enjoying themselves walking their baby up and down the stairs?” Um, it’s their business because the noise and distraction ruined their ability to focus on the movie they paid good money to see? How can you not understand something so simple?

      You say “What kind of message would that send to my child?” to remove them from a public setting when they’re being disruptive. The message is simple: “We share this space with others so it’s not just about us and our needs.” That’s the bare MINIMUM of being a part of society. It’s not just for kids; it’s for EVERYONE. If you want your child to be included in society, you can’t behave as if you’re the only people on the planet. You can’t have it both ways. You’re teaching your child the exact opposite: “My wishes/needs come first… even ahead of the wishes/needs of a hundred other people who are gathered to enjoy something together.” And how is it doing your child a favor to raise him to be unwelcome; to be shunned by others?

      I’m sorry for the harshness of this next sentence but I don’t know a gentle way to put it: parents like you are exactly the reason for the rise in no-kids-allowed polices.

      Nicole in Paris says she was heartened to read your comment, and she feels sorry for French children being so severely curtailed in public. Nicole sets up such a false dichotomy… either we are responsive to our kids to the point where they’re a public nuisance, or we are so uptight our kids aren’t allowed to touch a sofa. What about the middle ground? Can’t we be loving and bonded and sensitive to our children’s needs AND help them learn to exercise some restraint? I don’t get how some people see this as an “us vs them” deal. That’s the very definition of antisocial.

      • Happily Spawn Free

        March 9, 2015 at 3:58 pm

        Wow, you, as the parent, are the reason restaurants and other public places no longer tolerate your kids. Control is what these spawns need. If an adult stood on chairs, started singing, screaming running around, etc. he/she would be kicked out and in some cases banned from returning. Ever stop to wonder why more and more people cringe, roll their eyes and sign in frustration when they see children?? The skill of parenting has been lost and now we are faced with a new generation of spoiled, entitled and undisciplined people…I happily support any venue that bans kids under the age of 18.

    • Toni

      June 21, 2013 at 8:35 am

      Chair-standing and running around restaurants are forbidden not only because they are annoying but because they are UNSAFE.

    • Canuck (Canadian) Person

      November 23, 2014 at 9:56 am

      CST I’m a little confused so either you condone kids’ annoying behavior or you don’t and if you ever become a parent and if your hypothetical kid(s) are a handful (whether it’s your fault or not) and whatever you do don’t force nor expect everyone to be “big” on you kid(s) nor should you force nor expect everyone to “bend over backwards” to be nice to your kids.

    • getagrip

      December 24, 2014 at 3:02 am

      just because children don’t annoy you (extremely rare) doesn’t mean that other people should be subject to abuse or assault by you or your children.

      abuse of their right to enjoy their lives and assault of their environment with unacceptable levels of noise or being touched by someone else’s child who they refuse to parent in a responsible way.

    • Sue

      July 27, 2015 at 6:39 pm

      You are SO blind. People nowdays dont get very much time to stop and smell the roses and enjoy their time with each other. The LAST thing I want to hear and see are your screeching kids running a muck in a place where I am paying good money for enjoyment. You need to figure out what your kids need on your OWN time, not mine, and you know what your child needs at that moment to avoid that behavior?? A good swift kick in the rear end! I raised my kid properly and not at the expense of others. Im sure you could give it a try!

    • fran

      November 22, 2015 at 12:04 pm

      @CT I do happen to think that chair-standing or running/dancing children in restaurants are quite cute.

      This is not ‘CUTE’ yes this is age appropriate child behaviour, but in totally the wrong context.
      By taking a child who cannot sit still, cannot manage their behaviour and cannot survive half an hour without attention seeking from strangers into an environment that requires that before they can you are setting them up to fail socially with others who do not know them the way that you know them.
      Children are not to blame for climbing, running and shouting when you have given them a green light, you are the one at the wheel.
      Today I asked a group of four children to go away rom my table where they were jumping, climbing and shouting and go back to their parents who were sitting at the other side of the restaurant silently enjoying watching their four disrupt my lunch with my partner. The parents responded to that request by instructing their kids to come back to us and do it again. At that point I asked the parents politely using sign language because they were so far away to come and gather their brood. The response was the father storming over to my table with their kids and demanding to know what my ‘effing’ problem with kids is. I pointed out that I was having lunch with my partner without our kids and I would prefer to do that without their four kids jumping and shouting and climbing all over the adjacent chairs and our table. The Father told me I needed to ‘chill the eff out.’ I suggested he needed to be a more responsible and effective parent and consider that other people don’t want their lunch to be spoiled by loud out of control kids. ‘Letting your kids do this to others sharing a public space is bad parenting.’ Is what I said. He picked up a wooden napkin holder on the table and raised it in threat to me. Surrounded by his children who were by now fully enjoying the spectacle of their Father taking on the grown ups who asked them to tone it down. At that point my very quiet partner stood up and bellowed at him to put it down, which he did. The mans wife arrived at that point and I thought she was going to take the children away from the conflict. Instead she stepped in front of my partner, again in front of all her children and asked him if he would like to hit her. The restaurant staff called security and a five minute denial of anything being picked up or any threat being made began. It took CCTV footage, staff witnesses and another thirty minutes until this family were escorted off the premises, still ignoring their kids, who trailed along in the background. I am a teacher and so is my partner. The manager of the restaurant is an ex cop and so he waited to until he had checked the CCTV and asked staff IF the guy had threatened me with a dispenser. The staff had all watched it happen from the start with the kids climbing and jumping on and around our table. We received a very kind apology and everyone was very nice to us. BUT IF that Father had simply gathered his children, offered me the raised eyebrow code of parents across the world with a kind word of apology as he did so, I would have said that’s OK man have a great day with the kids. But NO, the incredible sense of ego and entitlement led him down the path of ‘How dare you not love my children as much as me?’ ‘How dare you not want my children banging into your soup and find that less than cute?’ ‘How dare you ask me to be a parent and take control, I am in control and I am enjoying seeing my kids bug you with total impunity.’ That is not control that is a man who got his kids thrown out of a restaurant along with his mouthy wife because neither of them had an ounce of respect for the fact that society functions on respect and goodwill, neither of which they had regarding the rights of others. I teach kids with special educational needs on a daily basis and I meet parents every day who will go the extra mile to work with me on giving those kids the structure that they need to function in society, healthily and positively. Boundaries make children safe, happy but most of all welcome, and a parent who can communicate that this is a BIG part of what they are trying to achieve to those adults surrounding them will find themselves supported, appreciated and made very welcome by those of us who know what a tough job parenting is. I was threatened today by a Father who taught his children that it is OK to hassle others and if they complain then attack them or make it a them v us scenario. This is the worst gift a parent can give a child, and worse for me was the kids missed out on their treat because it was the parents ultimately that got them escorted from the premises. I NEVER blame the kids. Kids do as they are taught and they mirror that from their parents behaviours. If you want likeable, well adjusted kids, be a likeable well adjusted adult and let them learn from you that this model offers everyone a chance to win. It is NEVER them v us in society it is about what how we would all like to be treated, best case scenario and working towards that as a collective.
      Being part of society means ‘thinking of others’ as well as yourself, your kids, your rights. If a polite request from others regarding their right to space and peace fires up your sense of ill usage and grievance. It’s YOU who needs to change, not your kids, and not the people who appealed to what they trusted would be or could be the best of you in your role as a parent. People trust parents are doing their best for their kids because that links directly to the society that those kids share with others, if you are not doing even close to your best, that sits squarely at your door.

  • M.

    July 31, 2011 at 9:54 am

    I see your point, though “a child being a child” can mean different things to different people. If a child is making a scene/screaming and making it impossible for anyone present to enjoy their meal/movie/special occasion, I think it is the parent’s resposibility to take care of the child’s needs WHILE also respecting the needs of other people present. Children need to be given limits early on, and those who are not, end up being the teenagers kicking your seat.
    And of course it’s not really anyone’s business whether the parents at the movie theater enjoyed themselves. Obviously, they disturbed the other viewers. One of the parents could have taken the toddler outside while the other remained with the 5 year old. Problem solved.

  • Nicole in Paris

    July 31, 2011 at 10:44 am

    @CST I was so very heartened after reading your response.  I actually live in France where apparently these other commenters would be very happy.  French children are very, very well behaved generally speaking.  But at what cost?  They are barely allowed to speak above a whisper, never allowed to interact with others for fear of disturbing them and definitely NOT touching anything, ever.  //NEW PARA//

    For example, we were at Ikea, a toddler/child friendly place where my young one was gleefully exploring the store.When she picked up one of the (breakable) display items, I bent down and asked her what she found.  She said “blah bloo ree kee”.  I replied, ” bloobadie bloo boo”.  No just kidding.  I just said, “yeah, that’s cool, but we’re gonna keep on moving so please CLEAN UP”.  She understands the last two words well.  She put the little cappucino cups back on the tray and she toddelled off to the next zone.  Meanwhile, a lil French kid was directed to stop touching a couch!  //NEW PARA//

    But that is Ikea, where they love kids (I think)  I have also been taking my 18 month old to the Louvre and other museums since she was just a few weeks old.  These are now environments that she is comfortable in.  She really does understand the concept of looking and not touching.  We have practiced this at home before going out.  //NEW PARA//

    The real world should include children.  It makes the world a better place.  I do believe there are a very few exceptions, movies and romantic restaurants are two of them.  My reasoning has nothing to do with other adults, but the children themselves are not actually able to learn much or do much in these settings.  If a child is included, engaged and learning, the child is not acting a fool.  Kids who are ignored or bored are the ones who seem to amuse themselves in ways that annoy adults./NEW PARA//

    As a result of including my daughter in almost all of our activities, people always respond with surprise that she is only 18 months old.  One big disclaimer, if when she hits the “terrible twos” and changes into one of those obnoxious inconsolable kids (could happen) – yup, we will leave any and every place.  It is about respect, respecting the kid and respecting other people.

  • Katy

    August 1, 2011 at 10:05 am

    Is it going to take a scalding hot skillet of fajitas to be dropped on a child’s head to keep them from running free in a restaurant?  I used to work in a coffee shop and held my breath too many times while children bashed into other customers with big hot cups of coffee, nearly spilling on them.  And parents chatted away without a glance at their kids.  
    I think it’s going to take other parents and people in general to stop pussyfooting around these irresponsible parents.  Call it what it is and embarrass them into proper parenting.  Americans need to grow a pair!  It’s not just rude, its unsafe, and I don’t want to be responsible for your child’s safety. 

  • blackhuff

    August 2, 2011 at 9:02 am

    You said it out loud which no one really wants to because they are afraid of getting thrown by stones.
    You are SO RIGHT in saying that bans are for children who’s parents don’t parent but then also, you get people who have children which does come forth as “not behaved” and then they actually have a medical condition like ADHD or ADD or whatever. This then restaurants see as “naughty children” which is wrong. 
    There’s a fine line when discussing this and also discipline. 

  • VG

    August 2, 2011 at 9:32 am

    For a mother of SEVEN to agree is saying ALOT! I agree with bans. Does it suck that my family gets lumped in when my child behaves? Yes, but I understand WHY. Look @ the changes that have happened during the holiday season. You can’t say Merry Christmas, but you sure as hell got to give recognition to those who celebrate hanukkah & kwanza. This country we live in is turing our children into tolerant wussies, and it starts with the PARENTS! Just be a parent and keep on truckin’!!

  • kellyhere

    August 2, 2011 at 11:50 am

    There’s something a little intolerant about the tone of this article – like, look at all those bad, stupid parents mucking it up for the rest of us. None of us is parenting perfectly, and you know, kids are a part of life. Kids are sort of socially inappropriate by nature, aren’t they? But that doesn’t mean that they should be cloistered away into strictly child-friendly, child-supported environments – I don’t think that’s good for anybody.  

    I certainly wasn’t born old, and can remember behaving badly in public and embarrassing my parents. Not a lot, but it happened, and we all survived, we’re all just fine. Isn’t that part of what you sign up for when you become a parent? And also part of the deal of being human? When you’re a human being in the company of other humans, there will occasionally be small humans in your vicinity, running amok. 

    • Katie Taylor

      March 2, 2014 at 5:15 am

      Occasionally ok – but it’s not occasionally – – nowadays it’s all the time, given that many parents don’t believe they should curtail any of their activities to accommodate their kids’ natural limits, fussiness and fatigue, including going to rock shows, fancy restaurants, bars and probably Zen meditation centers.

      I’d be more likely to agree with you that kids should be joyfully accepted as a natural part of modern social life if I were allowed to say something to kids who are getting in my hair, the way I would say something to the smoker in the bus shelter or the cell phone yakker in the theater. If kids in public should be accepted as a part of life, correcting kids who intrude on shared space should be accepted as a natural – even helpful – response too.

  • kellyhere

    August 2, 2011 at 11:54 am

    There’s something a little intolerant about the tone of this article – like, look at all those bad, stupid parents mucking it up for the rest of us. None of us is parenting perfectly, and you know, kids are a part of life. Kids are sort of socially inappropriate by nature, aren’t they? But that doesn’t mean that they should be cloistered away into strictly child-friendly, child-supported environments – I don’t think that’s good for anybody.  
    I certainly wasn’t born old, and can remember behaving badly in public and embarrassing my parents. Not a lot, but it happened, and we all survived, we’re all just fine. Isn’t that part of what you sign up for when you become a parent? And also part of the deal of being human? When you’re a human being in the company of other humans, there will occasionally be small humans in your vicinity, running amok.

    I also take issue with the overheated rhetoric about “parents who refuse to parent!” Talk to you local social services caseworker about parental neglect and child abuse and then get back to me about what it means to refuse to parent. I hardly think that taking your loud, obnoxious kid to a nice restaurant qualifies. 

  • J

    August 2, 2011 at 2:01 pm

    I have no problem with businesses banning children.  If you disagree fundamentally then you have choices and can go to a different place.  
    Children are children.  Period.  They have to be told what to do or they will hurt themselves or act inappropriately in public.  Obviously you can’t control all children all of the time, it’s not constructive and it’s impossible but your job as a parent is to mold a functioning adult.  One day they will have to know that running around in a movie theater is not acceptable behavior, for a 3 year old or for a 50 year old.

  • Tara

    August 2, 2011 at 3:04 pm

    I don’t see the problem with the ban. I don’t want fury creatures in my home, I don’t care if they were just hit by a truck and need to be inside because it’s 20 below zero. That might really tick some of my animal rights activist friends off. Too bad, I’m seriously allergic… and even if I wasn’t… it is my house. I should have the same rights in my place of business. I should have the right to refuse anyone’s money based on something that may negatively affect me, my employees, or my business.
    On the other hand, though, what’s to stop bans for all sorts of differences then? Ban old people, hetero or homosexual people, men or women, black or white, Christian or Buddhist… where does banning people become unacceptable? When they turn six? It might make sense to have very specific policies regarding customer behavior instead of an outright ban, but that would require cooperation from too many different parties & just wouldn’t work in today’s society. Sad.

  • Katie

    August 2, 2011 at 5:04 pm

    Here! Here! Does it seem like this is more common now than it used to be? Even in my own family there are kids running wild destroying things while the parents do nothing.

  • Laura

    August 3, 2011 at 7:44 am

    I think people only see the misbehaving children because they stand out. All the children that are behaving aren’t noticed, so I don’t think *banning* children is a good move. I have no problems with establishments banning misbehaving children, but what percentage of children are actually misbehaving? It’s ageist–assuming children will misbehave simply because they are children. What if we noticed people of another race misbehaving? Would we generalize it to the entire race? Our country has been there, done that, and it doesn’t yield pretty results.

    Picking on people who have no means to fight back isn’t a good thing, it’s bullying. If managers of these establishments had the balls to actually manage–kicking out the parents who don’t know how to parent, maybe this would be unnecessary. I have seen many misbehaving children, but I’ve seen far more misbehaving adults. 

  • Emily

    August 3, 2011 at 3:37 pm

    Laura, then you’re leaving it up to perspective and no one would enforce it. And definitely asking for more conflict and that conflict would be counterproductive to the ‘nice atmosphere’ the establishments are trying to create. I agree with the ‘ban’ personally. I have a 10month old and there are places I don’t take her and times of the day when I don’t take her to other places. I have asked for my food to be boxed up and left several times when my child was upset (teething – what can you do?) and it was possible that other people would be bothered. It’s part of this time of my life. When my child is older, a lot of things will change. I know this. As for kellyhere who talked about ‘not parenting’ being a bigger thing and not such a small thing, I really disagree. Certainly there’s a difference in the kind of not-parenting that qualifies as neglect and the kind of not-parenting that qualifies as rude to others and not teaching your child properly. Yes, children need an opportunity to be in public and learn how to behave. But parents who take children into public and do not actually take the time to teach them how to behave aren’t parenting – they’re just carrying kids along with them. The IKEA/France example is a cultural one and CST is right that you need to figure out what the child needs as opposed to jumping straight into disciplining them, but that’s a whole other issue in my book.

  • Julia

    August 3, 2011 at 9:13 pm

    It’s important to bring children out into society so they learn how to behave. I take my daughter out to family-friendly restaurants early in the evening fairly often. And on the ONE occasion we realized this was a very bad idea, we packed up and left.

    When I go out with The Husband for a fancy meal, it’s usually later in the evening, after my toddler goes to bed. So after I have shelled out for a nice meal and paid a sitter and shaved my frickin’ legs and wore fancy shoes and left my kid at home, I’m am EXTRA miffed when my nice meal is ruined by someone else’s kid. Do I support the ban? No. But in a land where stupid people are outbreeding the sensible, I don’t see what choice they have.

  • Melissa

    August 5, 2011 at 2:26 pm

    This last month I had to drive my oldest son to a town an hour away twice a week for a baseball clinic.  We usually ended up getting home late so it was easier to feed the kids in the other town before heading home.  We found a family friendly restaurant that had a good selection and it became our twice a week place the duration of his clinic.  The waitresses came to know us and were great.  Three different times we were approached by other patrons, mostly seniors, and complimented on how well behaved my three boys were. I was surprised every time especially since one of those times I had escorted my 8 year old to the bathroom to have a talk about throwing crayons.  I think a lot of it was that when I am out with my kids we talk, play tic tac toe on a piece of paper, I am involved and paying attention to them and stopping any misbehavior as soon as it starts.  I see a lot of parents on their phones or talking to each other completely ignoring the kids.

  • Lori

    August 5, 2011 at 3:12 pm

    As a mother of 6, I say Amen Sister!

  • edj

    August 5, 2011 at 5:01 pm

    I both agree and disagree with you. (I hold all the views 😉 On the one hand, I can’t stand it when parents don’t parent, but instead allow their kids to run wild. The case you mentioned is actually mind-blowing, but I can think of others from my own experience. On the other hand, I do have an anecdote the other way. I have 3 kids, and usually when we took them out we got covered in compliments about how well behaved they were. But once, at a Starbucks, I was letting the twins (then 2 or 3) play in a little area where no one else was. They were chattering to each other but weren’t being loud. And I got totally chewed out by another customer who was trying to have a library-quiet coffee experience.
    Basically, to sum up this essay I’m writing in comments, I think both sides need to give. Parents need to parent. Kids can and should be taught to sit still, to respect the needs of others, etc. But the others also need to recognize that kids aren’t evil, that sometimes they will wriggle and be difficult, and that part of living in society means that we won’t always be in our comfort zone.

    Isabel says: I like you! You are one reasonable woman.

  • Anke

    August 5, 2011 at 5:42 pm

    AMEN!!! I couldn’t agree with you more. it drives me completely nuts when parents don’t actually parent and let their kids run amok.

  • hennifer

    August 5, 2011 at 7:51 pm

    I am against it because it is punishing the majority for the crimes of the minority. I have heard the horror stories but I have rarely if ever seen that type of behavior and we are a busy, social family. As I always tell me kids before heading into an establishment “remember your personal space, everyone else here did not come to eat/watch movie/listen to music with you”. I think the bans take the place of what should be discussions with individuals and per your previous article us realizing that sometimes while uncomfortable we need to speak up when we see other parents parenting badly or not at all.

  • Carrie

    August 5, 2011 at 10:23 pm

    I agree completely with what you said. I have five children and I know that taking them to certain places is completely out of the question. We actually did go to a nicer restaurant recently though and I was very happy with the way they behaved. If any of them had misbehaved I would have removed them from the restaurant as to not disturb the other patrons. It is just the way that it is when they are little kids. As a side note, I recently went to a movie. On the way out I saw a sign that stated that no children under six would be allowed in rated R movies with their parents after six in the evening. I would think it would be common sense to not bring them ever!

  • Wookie

    August 5, 2011 at 11:07 pm

    as much as I can’t support people who let their kids do things that are majorly disruptive, inappropriate or dangerous, i can’t get behind a ban, either. Mostly because I think the ban targets the wrong group… If we could have a general asshole ban I’d be all for it… That would get the problem parents out of the picture as well as the generic badly behaved adult.

    Isabel says: agreed. we need an “asshole ban.”

  • Wendy

    August 5, 2011 at 11:36 pm

    100% completely agree.

  • Nicki

    August 6, 2011 at 12:33 am

    More than once we have left a restaurant due to the crying of our children when they were babies.  After the 2nd or 3rd time, we quit going until we could reason with our kids on proper restaurant behavior.

    Why in the world would anyone want to go to a theater to pace the aisle…..

  • Paulla

    August 6, 2011 at 10:34 am

    I couldn’t agree more. By the time my kids were 2, 3, and 9, I had them so well trained that I found I couldn’t stand most other people’s kids. What is it with people? Ugh. My kids are now 17, 18 and 24 and they are still a delight!

  • Angela

    August 6, 2011 at 11:52 pm

    As a waitress, I would LOVE to work in a restaurant that banned small children. It is torturous to listen to the same baby wail for an hour, not only because of the noise but because it is infuriating to realize that parents will let a child cry for that long and not leave. A little fussiness is a minor annoyance, but no one wants to hear a newborn cry for their entire meal.
    Furthermore, a lot of parents don’t seem to recognize how dangerous it is for their kids to run wild. We carry trays that weigh up to thirty pounds, filled with scalding hot food or dirty dishes, through very narrow aisles. When children are jumping all over the place or running around corners, we may not see them coming and we can’t guarantee we won’t drop those trays when a kid runs into us at full speed. I’m also surprised how many parents will let their kids just go hang out in the lobby, out of their view… we don’t know whose kids they are, and it’s really not up to us to make sure they don’t wander outside or leave with the wrong people. It’s unfortunate that parents whose children do behave won’t be able to take their kids out to businesses with the bans, but if there were any in my town I would certainly take advantage of them!

  • Lisa

    August 7, 2011 at 2:13 am

    THANK YOU! Could not agree more…all it does is make for an uncomfortable situation for everyone…not just the parent(who may or may not care about their screaming child or even be bothered by it), but for all the others who are trying to enjoy their meal/movie/etc…

    Same goes for grocery shopping/target/walmart, etc…I see more people screaming at their children…I’m not saying my kids were perfect, but there were MANY times I left the cart and had to come back because they were just not behaving(usually when they were under 2 yrs old), but I learned VERY quickly when they were in a better mood for shopping and did it during that time of the day 😉

  • annmarie

    August 9, 2011 at 9:22 am

    It’s not misbehaving children who bother me when I am out. It is misbehaving adults who typically ruin dinner/movie expriences. Ever since I’ve had children I’ve realized something – other people’s crying, screaming, loony kids don’t bother me. It’s only my children who can drive me insane and irritate me. When I see other kids acting poorly I just thank god it’s not my kid and get back to ignoring it. But I can hardly ever ignore or tune out obnoxious and rude adult patrons. I guess we’ve just come to accept rude adults as the norm but kids are a bother. Have you ever been out to eat and heard someone screaming at the waitress because their food was cold or not served properly? I have and I would take a running, jumping kid any day of the week. Or how about the people who gab on their cell phones loudly so that everyone within a mile radius can her them. And also I have to say, as a parent of 4 kids, I have had to witness my own kids acting foolishly and it stinks. Sometimes I’ve been able to get it under control and other times, for whatever reason, things go terribly wrong. And it’s always the stares of other adults that make me feel rotten about myself and have me sheepishly leaving the place. There are a lot of parents commenting here who seem to imply that they have perfect children. Ick. Humilty people, humilty, It’s a wonderful thing!

    • Canuck (Canadian) Person

      November 23, 2014 at 7:13 pm

      Are you serious?? I don’t fault people who are bothered by unruly kids and their clueless parents who do nothing about their kids’ poor behavior. Parents who are inconsiderate need to realize that there should be consequences when they let their kids run amok,in fact and in my opinion,it’s these parents’ fault and their problem that they and their annoying kids get banned and or kicked out of some establishment.

  • Headless Mom

    August 9, 2011 at 11:27 am

    AMEN, Chris! Thank you for putting on virtual paper what I’ve been feeling for YEARS.

  • Christy

    August 9, 2011 at 4:19 pm

    Absolutely. I like the comment about the Drafthouse allowing kids during daylight. I don’t go to movies often, as its expensive, so it’s a treat for me & my husband. So we try to go later in the evening, to mitigate the amount of rude parents/kids. We recently saw the 9:30pm showing of Capt America & surprisingly there were still a few parents with kids there who were definitely under 6. It’s ridiculous to expect children of that age to be up that late, at a movie that probably has scary parts to them, to behave well. Fortunately, the kids close to use did really well, better than the teen next to me who was texting. But I am to the point that I definitely would have gone to the manager if they had been loud. I approve of this new trend & think we’ll see more of it; as budgets get tighter, people are tolerate les rudeness. If I can only afford to go on a date night with my husband once a month or less, I’m going to speak up when the movie we paid $40 to see is interupted. Yes, every child acts up occasionally & I am sympathetic to that. But it is up to the parent to make the hard choice & demonstrate the importance of respecting other people. It’s not about having perfect children, it’s about putting the children’s need for boundries ahead of the parent’s desire to go to an adult movie. And I really feel sorry for the parents who have saved up enough for a night out plus babysitting money, who then have to deal with other people’s rudeness.

  • Raquel

    August 9, 2011 at 4:30 pm

    THANK YOU!!! I do not have children yet, but I work with them and trust me I love kids, but what parents dont see is the experience from the child’s point of view. In the situation you described, that child cannot enjoy the movie, they do not understand what is going on. You are forcing them to sit (or hang out) in the dark. I think if we could see a situation from the child’s point of view, we could see that they will not enjoy a place that has a policy banning them in the 1st place. When children are banned from Chuck E Cheese, then you have a point.

  • Lucinda

    August 11, 2011 at 6:35 pm

    There is a difference between expecting good behavior and expecting a child to be a “little adult”.  Many who have taken offense to this article have said that we must allow children to be children and they won’t know how to behave unless we expose them to different environments.  These are both true statements.  HOWEVER, we must keep it age appropriate.  We wouldn’t throw a child in the deep end of a pool if they didn’t know how to swim even though swimming is an important skill.  We start in the shallow end first with them learning to put their face in the water, blow bubbles, kick with a kickboard, etc.  until we get up to diving in the deep end.  The same can be done with taking kids out.  We start with family friendly places where that are appropriate for the developmental level of our child.  Fine dining or a broadway play is not appropriate for a 2 year old.  Period.  But because many people do not use this good judgement, these bans have been put in place and are sadly necessary in our society.  They aren’t a result of intolerance.  They are a result of poor parenting.

  • Leila

    August 13, 2011 at 1:28 am

    I fully agree with the article.  Not only must we keep different environments age appropriate, but we should also keep our egos in check.  Unfortunately, there is a new trend in our society that children are all “special,” hence the ridiculous comments about how certain children are “more energetic than others.”  ALL YOUNG CHILDREN are energetic; if a child is not, then there’s something medically wrong.  While there’s something unique about every child, no child or his/her parents have the right to override the rights of others.  If a couple go to a fancy restaurant to enjoy a quiet dinner, then they should be allowed to do so.  The parents can find a family-friendly restaurant (such as Chuck E. Cheese’s or Mickey D’s). It’s common sense.  Moreover, this poor example of “me-me-me” set by the parents create problems later in the child’s life; he/she will grow up with a monumental and narcissistic sense of entitlement that will preclude his/her integration into society.     

  • Emily

    August 14, 2011 at 5:57 pm

    I think that’s a very good way to put it, Lucinda!

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  • Laura

    June 6, 2013 at 3:33 pm

    Makes me think and ponder….What about a child that is austistic? Do you think they should be banned? Even if they are well parented, they still may have have a need to make noises.  And how would you know if a child has an invisible disability like FSA (fetal  alcohol  syndrome) which could be why they are “acting out” ? What would you do in a movie theatre/ restaurant if a child was sitting near you who had Tourette’s and did loud verbal tics every 5 minutes? What about kids like this who make noise/ act out? How would you feel with them in a restaurant or movie theater? 

  • Laura

    June 6, 2013 at 4:03 pm

    Meant hidden disability, not invisible. Sorry.

  • Susan

    June 10, 2013 at 11:00 pm

    I once dated a man FAR longer than I should have because he told me quite solemnly that, once we had kids, he was prepared to never finish either a meal or a movie. Because if they acted up, it was out the door! Even tho’ I didn’t marry him, I still lived up to that code. I would be mortified if my children ever ruined someone else’s meal or movie, & I’m not about to sit quietly by while someone else’s do/es.

  • Susan

    June 12, 2013 at 3:12 pm

    The either/or bs in this post is frustrating. Yes, I parent my children. I’m constantly parenting, teaching them to behave, correcting behavior. Sometimes they get it. And sometimes they don’t. I’m astounded at the number of responses here from parents who seem to have children who always behave perfectly. As in, all the time. Clearly you don’t live on the same planet as me. My children are human. And furthermore, one of my children has autism. Sometimes he’s perfectly fine when we go out. In fact, often. And I pre-plan everything we do to try to make it work for him. But sometimes he has an off day. Should we always stay indoors so as not to upset the rest of you and your perfect children? Perhaps. But perhaps you should also be a little less quick to judge. Some of the posts here are just ridiculously intolerant.

    • Abbs

      August 29, 2013 at 4:22 am

      If your kid is truly autistic, it’s a whole different ballgame and it’s understandable. More often, tho,  people claim that their kid is autistic when they really aren’t. It’s more of an excuse the same way they use ADD, ADHD, or whatever other non-existent alphabetic condition is in fashion at the moment as an excuse for crappy behaviour. My friend has an autistic son who it’s obvious to see that he IS autistic, but there are plenty of people who claim they have an autistic child when it’s actually just crappy parenting.

    • Angela

      September 6, 2014 at 12:05 pm

      There is no way for the employees of wherever you’re going to know ahead of time that your child has autism. It’s generally not a visible condition. 

      I’ve worked retail and had a woman scold me because i politely told her child not to knock over a full display of jewelry onto his head.

       We understand that, to some extent, children are children. I think everyone knows that. And when your child is autistic, there’s so many more things that can go on during any trip. 

      But at the same time, these employees and managers are trying to run a business, and their livelihood is on the line every time a child potentially does something dangerous. All it takes is one major lawsuit to sink a small business into the ground. 

  • Katie Taylor

    March 2, 2014 at 5:18 am

    Great article! Very well articulated.

  • Ainsleigh

    January 3, 2015 at 8:04 pm

    I wish other parents were like you. I don’t mind kids if they aren’t screaming and making a mess. I’m never having children but it’s nice to know there are reasonable parents out there. I never had tantrums in public because my mom would spank me if I tried to pull half the carp kids do now and I am only 25! 

  • parent who parents

    January 5, 2015 at 4:10 pm

    This article makes it sound like anyone with a kid who misbehaves or speaks above a whisper did not feel like being a parent that day. Many a time I have called ahead and asked is this restaurant OK for a 3 year old? The ones who say, sure come on in… well we have to believe them. Or we look around and ask the hostess for a booth away from the rest of the patrons. We always block him in by taking the outside seats  in booths. We let him watch vies on our cell phones,  tablets. Or we just take one look at the type of restaurant and turn right around at the door (no booths, intimate seating).  It all depends.  We CONSTANTLY tell our son to “behave” or “don’t sing, everyone else is being quiet” or “don’t bother the other people” etc… we have walked him outside, etc.  This post is insulting to parents who honestly try.  Save the sarcasm. What do you want us to do, pack up our food in Styrofoam and leave? We are not at the four seasons, it’s just Ruby Tuesdays. Nothing to save your pennies for. Calm down. Believe me, the parents are already mortified and dying on the inside and will avoid coming back unless it’s an off peak hour. And the child can only learn through experience.  And if you  have some tips then share.  What exactly is “discipline” or a light punishment for a 3 year old who doesn’t understand why everyone doesn’t want to sing right now???? Take away his food and starve him while we eat?  The parents who are OBVIOUSLY oblivious (kids running around, under the table, unsupervised in the playroom at chick filet while parents are outside on their cell phones, etc.) are the ones actually putting their kids in danger and the article should have focused on that, very clearly.

  • cy Varcoe Willis

    March 23, 2015 at 10:14 am

    This is the first forum I’ve found that addresses those noisy cumbersome results of being too tired to crawl out of bed and find birth control. Just returned from the Worcester Art museum – adios! And farewell to the days of Museums having any semblance of a sacred atmosphere. No more memories folks, of standing wide eyed in front of mum is or knights in armor, no more to hear the whispered words “no running”, no screeching, no banging your foot. Little Mary needs to run free! We don’t want her to see anything disturbing and we’ve taught her that she can express her voice anywhere! Expression is vital! So is a klonopin and I wish one of us had taken one.  The bs about creating places for children in museums (rooms with cushy bean bags, oppsy! Bring your own hand sanitizer!!) is not now, nor has it ever been about your kids. It’s about bringing money into the facility. I did see one family with marvelously behaved boys – could’ve kissed them!! The boys didn’t want to be there. So what?! ..They didn’t  whine, stamp their feet, they simply endured being in a place where they’d rather not have been, quietly and perfectly mannered. Dying breed honeybunch.

  • Carmen

    April 23, 2015 at 5:59 pm

    I was so happy that this was the first thing that popped up when i googled banning children from restaurants! I can not even begin to tell you how many date nights with my husband have been ruined by parents of unruly children. I have had toys and food thrown at and on our table, drinks knocked over, my booth kicked the entire meal, screaming and crying- you name it. We work hard for our money and when we can afford to go out to a meal it should be an enjoyable experience. We avoid family friendly restaurants for a reason- hoping that is where the familys with children would take their children, put it seems, especially in the El Paso area, that parents just don’t care about the people around them

    I have lived in many states and Texas has been the worst by far. We even went to an R rated movie and had a family come in and the kids screamed in absolute TERROR the entire movie and the parent ignored the children, both under the age of 7, and actually had the father tell the child to “man up and stop being such a [email protected]#$sy”.

    Growing up in the 80’s, I guess it was different. Very sad what the “parents” are raising their children to be these days.

    You been to Wal-Mart lately? So sad.

  • Veronica Sailsbry

    September 4, 2015 at 12:55 pm

    I have 3 children (1, 13 and 8) and they have never done that. When my 8 yr old was about 3 she wanted to see a film and our Local Cinema. Me and my daughter went to it and she was really exited to be going there. But, there was a mother, her baby and a 3yr old. I didn’t like it when I saw they were behind us. Before it even started the baby was sick on me, it was crying, it was running around and screaming. I complained to the lady at the counter and she said if it happened one more time she would kick them out of the Cinema. When I was going back to my seat I glared at the mother. And as I thought the baby screamed, screamed and screamed. That was it, I told the lady and she made them leave. Once we had seen the movie, I wrote a review on the website and I said, “A baby that old shouldn’t of been aloud to be there.” I don’t know why I didn’t just buy her the DVD now… lol.

    I really like this article. My 13yr said she doesn’t want kids and I can kinda see why. She doesn’t like babies or young children except her brother and her sister. 

  • Elizabeth

    January 14, 2016 at 7:40 pm

    I totally agree with you, like if the parents can control their kids in restaurants then none of these child-bans wouldn’t happen. 

    When me and my sisters were little, we were behaved really well in public. Mothers come up to my mom asking how we were so well-behaved. She didn’t had a clue how we behaved either. 

    I had to hear kids misbehaving all the time and it gets on my nerves! 

    When I saw the Avengers: Age of ultron (i wish we had the Alamo Drafthouse where i live too) a mother had brought her kids, even a toddler. The kid was starting to fuss, she took the baby but did she left the theater to deal with her fussing child? No, I heard them. She did this about 4 times, without even taking her child out of the movie theater to let those who were watching the movie to enjoy. 

    Even at restaurants….I hate it how parents are IGNORING that their child is crying and making a fuss that is making everyone upset.

    No child shouldn’t be allowed in fancy-restaurants either. I go to Olive Garden, and let me tell you it’s just horrible. I had to be lucky enough if their was a booth instead of a table since I hate being near parents who don’t do anything to keep their kid quiet or take their kid outside to calm them down. 

    Some parents and people will complain about this rule but really they need to be parenting their kids. Not letting them be kids in places where there are other people enjoying the food and movies.

  • angie

    January 27, 2016 at 1:35 pm

    Kids should be banned from ALL public places. All kids, all the time, everywhere. Sane people who didn’t spawn should not have the things inflicted on them. They should not be seen or heard. Not till they are at least 21 and then only if they’ve learned some manners.

  • Nadeem Athar

    February 20, 2017 at 10:59 am

    When you mentioned that a woman scolded you because you politely informed her son not to knock over a full display of jewelry onto his head I have to say that she was being irresponsible even rude to feel that her son is justified in acting up in the store.To me it’s ridiculous that other peoples’ kids seem to have a right to misbehave and these kids’ stupid parents seem to have the right to let their kids misbehave.Speaking of rudeness parents are not rude to their kids if they let them misbehave the parents are rude to the folks that their kids are giving a hard time to.

  • Chicho Blanco

    March 23, 2017 at 10:08 pm

    I’m fairly certain she’s joking.

  • Chicho Blanco

    March 24, 2017 at 12:02 am

    You truly and utterly don’t get it. I’ll break it down for you. Nobody is saying that a parent can snap his or her fingers and make a kid behave. What they can do is remove a screaming child from an area and not ruin things for other people. In other words, actually behave like an adult and be a parent. It’s really simple and shouldn’t need to be explained.

  • Weaselina

    March 26, 2017 at 9:07 am

    There are a lot of permissive parents who do very little or nothing to parent their kids in public. My bf has been guilty of this himself. I had to teach his kid how to be in a restaurant, as no one else seemed to care if an 8 year old behaved like a 4 year old.
    I am in full support of places banning kids. There are so many places that are family friendly, why do we have to have kids everywhere?

  • Tatiana Romanowsky

    September 25, 2017 at 2:54 am

    I would love it if Starbucks in Southern, California could banned children under the age of 12 from entering to because why are children going to coffee shops? Are parents being irresponsible and giving them coffee?! I hope not!! It’s bad for them & Sugar at that age is dangerous for them too & I am sick of seeing kids at Starbucks because they annoy costumers for money & They yell and The run around & Scream to the top of their lungs and That is why my fiancé & I no longer go into Starbucks that much anymore.