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Diaper Pail Stink Wars

Diaper Pail Stink Wars

By Amalah

Hi Amalah,

You’ve helped us before with our 7 month old who wouldn’t nap and your advice was great, so I’m back. This time about cloth diapers. And I know you probably feel like you’ve written the Bible on cloth diapers, but I can’t find a good answer to my question in all my googling and looking at your past resources. And since reading all of your advice the first time around was why we cloth diapered in the first place, I figured you were the right person to come to for help. So, we did CD our first who is now three. At first we used a regular old diaper pail, but when we discovered it would only hold about three cloth diapers, we switched to a plain old plastic kitchen garbage can. (With a plastic garbage bag because my husband refused to buy a pail liner when it’s so much more expensive than a garbage bag.) That worked great for a while, but eventually started to seriously stink up our house. So, we put that in the garage, and though inconvenient it worked as my baby was older and I wasn’t changing 8 diapers a day.

Fast forward a couple of years. Now I have TWINS! EEK! And the diaper pail/garbage can in the garage is no longer working with TWO babies. So I got one of those nice hanging pail liners for the back of the door and I LOVED it. It was so much more convenient, I loved the zipper at the bottom so I didn’t have to touch anything to put it in the washer. But after about a week my husband started complaining of the smell. Which never bugged me. He’s also concerned about the ammonia smell from the dirty diaper in the twins’ room causing problems. Our girls were preemies, born at 26 weeks, spent 3 months in the NICU, so I get it, even if I don’t necessarily share the concern. So, that went to the garage too. So, basically now how it works is that all of the diapers end up stacked on the changing table until I can finally get around to taking them all to the garage at the end of the day.

So, how do we find a compromise? Something I can keep in the room with the twins but won’t drive my husband nuts with the smell or make him worry that it is causing harm to our girl’s lungs? (Now they’re 13 months, 10 months adjusted and have no health problems, they’re just super small!) Since we have a 3 year old and a dog an open pail is not going to work (plus there’s no way my husband would agree to that). We use AIOs and have no issues with stink otherwise, it’s just when they’re dirty and waiting to be washed every 2-3 days. Help? Ideas? Give up and just accept that the garage is the best solution?

THANK YOU!

So I’m curious as to which hanging pail liner you’re using…if a product isn’t working as intended feel free to CALL IT OUT by name.

I personally came up completely dry on any Google-fu about any possible health concerns re: diaper odor. I mean, if breathing in the smell of baby poop and pee were harmful, most of us would be suffering from whatever ill effects it caused. (MAYBE I AM.) It’s unpleasant, of course, but healthy human urine is a pretty harmless substance, and breathing in the smell of it is NOT the same as breathing in a harsh chemical ammonia cleanser.

That said, ain’t nobody want their house smelling like pee.

So. Here’s what I’d ask about your current/past setup, for troubleshooting purposes. First, I’m assuming your diapers smell fine when they come out of the wash and we’re not dealing with a case of diaper build-up stink from a washing issue. (If so, please refer to this column.)

Second, plastic garbage bags are NOT ideal for storing cloth diapers and trapping the…unique odors they produce. A one-time investment in a proper resuable pail liner or two would have probably solved some of your stink issues with the regular ol’ garbage can. We used a $15 metal pail with a lid from IKEA, with Planet Wise pail liners — the kind with elastic on on top to hook around the pail. Super simple, and at $16 a liner, only a couple bucks more than a single box of deodorizing kitchen trash bags, of which I’m sure you went through plenty of. We NEVER had an odor problem unless we really slacked on the laundry cycle, or on the steps I’ll cover next.

The OTHER thing you don’t mention is how often either of your pail setups (garbage can or hanging pail) were/are washed and deodorized. Our metal pail was taken outside and hosed off and thoroughly scrubbed with an all-purpose cleanser every once in awhile. Maybe about once a month? Usually whenever I felt like there was some moisture building up on the pail itself. I also regularly sprinkled a little baking soda in the bottom of the pail to further fight off odors. (You can get those fancy little baking soda nursery fresheners and toss one of those in the bottom of your pail/trash can, but I never thought those ever worked as well as a shake or two of the Real Stuff. They are less messy though.)

And my reusable liners went in the wash with the diapers…EVERY TIME. You mention your current pail has a zipper for easy unloading, and it kind of sounds like you only bought one and you’re emptying it and then immediately rehanging it up. So you’re maybe not washing it as often as you wash the diapers. That will DEFINITELY cause an odor build up pretty quickly. If you’re not washing that thing every few days (while letting more dirty diapers pile up inside it), I’d say the liner/bag itself is probably the main source of your odor issue. They do a good job trapping and sealing the odors but they DO take on some of the urine/ammonia smell eventually. So I found it best to just dump the liner upside-down to unload the diapers, then toss it on top and wash it all together. Then I relined the pail with my second (fresh and recently laundered) liner.  Back and forth, over and over, right on through potty training.

So my advice would be to either 1) buy second/back-up hanging liner and start washing them along with the diaper load, OR 2) bring back the garbage can but invest in two proper reusable liners (that you also wash), AND be sure to scrub out the can once in awhile AND add baking soda to the bottom.

(I’ve read that the Diaper Dekor Plus works really well for cloth, but since you guys don’t strike me as fans of extra fancy baby gear investments, I say just spring for the good liners and leave it at that.)

Typically the pail liners can be washed the exact same way as cloth diapers (though obviously check manufacturer instructions) but not all of them can go in the dryer — I totally ruined my very first Planet Wise bag this way because the plastic-y inside layer cracked and kind of melted. Whoops. Hang those up to dry! (They dry super quickly anyway.)

Another great tool for diaper odor warfare is Biokleen Bac-Out. It’s a natural (plant-based) and diaper/nursery safe spray that  we would spritz on every diaper before we tossed it in the pail. I’d also open the pail and give whatever was sitting in there a couple freshening sprays every now and then. We still use it for pet odors/stains, stinky shoes, etc. Add that to the rotation above and you should stay virtually odor free.

(Although I can’t help you if your husband is just one of those people whose brain tells him things smell bad because he simply knows there’s something nearby that might smell bad. I can tell him there’s no real imminent health danger to smelling the dirty diapers of healthy humans, properly stored for a couple days in a properly ventilated room, but he might not believe me. Either way, your pail shouldn’t be a big source of stink, and should totally be somewhere CONVENIENT because I don’t have twin babies or ANY babies right now and oh my God, carrying diapers out to the garage every time sounds exhausting.)

Amalah
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Amy Corbett Storch

Amalah

Amalah is a pseudonym of Amy Corbett Storch. She is the author of the Advice Smackdown and Bounce Back. You can follow Amy’s daily mothering adventures at Ama...

Amalah is a pseudonym of Amy Corbett Storch. She is the author of the Advice Smackdown and Bounce Back. You can follow Amy’s daily mothering adventures at Amalah. Also, it’s pronounced AIM-ah-lah.

If there is a question you would like answered on the Advice Smackdown, please submit it to amyadvice@gmail.com.

Amy also documented her second pregnancy (with Ezra) in our wildly popular Weekly Pregnancy Calendar, Zero to Forty.

Amy is mother to rising first-grader Noah, preschooler Ezra, and toddler Ike.

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Comments

  • MR

    Go to Home Depot or Lowe’s and buy one of those metal trash cans with a lid. Put the washable/reusable liner in there. Plastic absorbs the odors. Metal does not, and as long as the lid is on, you won’t smell it. We still have that thing, even though my youngest is now 4, and long potty trained, and use it for other things. Something along the lines of this:
    http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000AS3OW8?keywords=metal%20garbage%20can%20with%20lid&qid=1444666683&ref_=sr_1_1&sr=8-1
    Later, when they have started solids, move it to the bathroom right next to the sprayer on your toilet, so you can just dump the diapers in there after you have sprayed them.
    Also, are you using cotton inserts? If not, DO. The microfiber ones really hold that ammonia smell, but the cotton ones don’t and clean much easier.

  • Katie

    I used the plastic pail you buy on cottonbabies.com, with the little carbon filter bear thing in the lid.  Full disclosure:  I cloth diapered for 4 straight years (2 babies)…..and I don’t think I ever once replaced the filter.  But like amy said–line with a good cloth liner (that always gets washed with the diapers), wipe down the inside of the pail once and a while, and I could never smell a thing when the pail was closed.  Neither could my husband, who lobbied hard against cloth diapers on the ground that they would stink.

  • Karen

    No advice but this column has made me realize that I’ve been using the same plastic bin with pop lid from Target with the same two washable Planet Wise liners in rotation for six years (three kids). Jeez. No stink problems here. make sure you wash that hanging bag!

  • Autumn

    Get the planet wise liners and wash them!   If your husband complains about the cost, they can be used for hauling wet gear around, such as swim wear, beach towels (just throw the wet stuff in the bag and into your suitcase after beach getaways), snow suits/boots/ jackets (great after skiing!) for years in the future!  I have 2 grovia pail liners from my first, but the waterproofing was starting to go, so now those haul wet gear and the new ones are holding poop.

    For baking soda distribution, I use one of those dollar store sugar shaker things, which I fill from the costco sized bags of baking soda.  Less risk of incidental spilling compared to an open box.  When a especially stinky offering is produced, a little sprinkle right in the bag keeps things manageable.   Also keep one in the kitchen to help scrub off stubborn cooked on spots, keeps the stainless looking pretty

  • Janna

    We had two ubbis, one for upstairs and one for downstairs. Expensive but so worth it! We never had odor problems.

  • April U

    I cloth diapered for 5 years between two kids. We used a Diaper Champ, which was purchased for $1 at a garage sale. I used normal tall kitchen trash bags with it. A reusable liner might work with it as well. Once the champ was full I knew it was time to wash a load.

  • Maree

    i have cd 4 kids, my method is to put them in a large builders bucket with a screw on lid from the hardware store, no liner. I hose out the bucket occasionally and if it gets any solids on it. 

    Could the problem be that you aren’t washing often enough? You mention washing every 2-3 days. Twins @ 8 each x3 days is up to 48 by the third day… That is a LOT of nappies and I guess would be bound to smell eventually (wet nappy smell builds up over time). Sympathy for how busy (understatement of the year) you are now, is there any chance you could wash more often?  When I have had two in nappies I put a load on whenever the bucket was full regardless of time of day – normally at least once a day. Never more than 36 hours.

    • kathy

      I was about to say the same thing. I used cloth nappies for my first born and I washed them daily. Immediately after changing him, I’d throw the poop in the loo and flash. Then I’d presoak them and wash them in the afternoon. It seems like a lot of work, but once you get into a routine, it is not too bad. I was always afraid of stains if the nappies stayed wet for too long. 

  • Christy

    Listen sister, I know JACK about CD but I DO know twin preemie girls (our “third” turned into “three and four”. They are now two and finally on the growth chart so hang in there!)  You deserve a medal for pulling off cloth with twins. Amazing. And I’m sure you’ve learned this already but with multiples it is completely fair game to throw dollars at anything that might possibly make your life even a little bit easier. Buy like 12 of the nice liner bags!!! 

  • heidimama

    Shout out to the diaper dekor plus. I bought it before I knew I was going to CD, and bought the reusable Dekor plus pail liners I bought on Amazon once we started. I wash the liners each time I do the CD laundry and have no issues with stink.

  • Margaret

    I only used an open pail for three years and at year four w my third baby my husband was so angry by the smell.  We keep the pail in the bathroom w the changing table. And we only have one bathroom.  I finally convinced him that if I bought two pail liners I could use a new clean one each time I did a wash and (research said! ((He’s big on research))) that the stink would be contained.  It worked! Stink be gone. I do wash the liners every time I do diaper laundry and occasionally wash out my bucket. He’s not sold on cd at all, but he did say that the smell was much better.

  • Jay

    I cloth diapered my twins.  We used a metal pail with a lid and PlanetWise liners with elastic.  I had two liners and alternated — each went in the wash with the diapers.  It was….really easy.  No stink.  I cannot even imagine using a regular plastic trash bag or keeping a day’s worth of twin diapers out in the room until taking them to the garage.  Get thee a metal pail and a liner, stat!

  • Sarah

    Twins @ 16 mo here, cd from day 1 – I have three liners, technically four but one is for storage of other things, and I rotate through the three during the course of a week. We do covers and prefolds, with stay-dry inserts because of a sensitive tushie that reacts badly with the urine sitting on her skin. I do find the stink of overnight dipes especially can be lethal, so maybe it’s worth doing smaller loads more frequently. Good luck!!!